Curse

kazi_saki · Oct 10, 2008, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Its just an extra 2s recharge but iono. I thought the beauty of IA was in spammability.

I haven't played ranger for a long time but 5s recharge seems pretty long for this. I know people will say its okay cuz you get more to do like interrupts but, I wantz me some burning!

Dark Desicration · Oct 10, 2008, 03:35 PM // 15:35

Burning Arrow

kazi_saki · Oct 10, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45

but 5s recharge just for burning on 1 target? I still don't think its so good. I guess you stack it with poison tip signet/apply poison + sharpen daggers maybe? Ultra degen? ? I still like IA + sharpen daggers + apply poison though.

So is burning arrow good for PvP now? Will ppl be using it in PvE?

Celeborn10 · Oct 10, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03

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Originally Posted by kazi_saki

but 5s recharge just for burning on 1 target? I still don't think its so good. I guess you stack it with poison tip signet/apply poison + sharpen daggers maybe? Ultra degen? ? I still like IA + sharpen daggers + apply poison though.

So is burning arrow good for PvP now? Will ppl be using it in PvE?

Burning Arrow was always a good elite for PvP until IA overshadowed it at the stand. Spreading poison with IA is almost brainless and it is good that it was balanced. Why complain? Rangers still have the [broken] Expert's Dexterity, Melandru's is now more viable (1s activation time is awesome) and Burning Arrow got buffed when it was already a decent elite.

If you must have mass degen in PvE, take a Fevered Dreams Mesmer along with a BA ranger with Concussion Shot. Burning+Poison=11 degen (capped at 10) making Sharpen Daggers redundant.

ajc2123 · Oct 10, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

I will probably not use IA for pvp anymore. Despite not removing a prep and shooting up to 3 arrows, If I need that kind of AoE power (Possibly on AB ONLY...rarely have I used IA in other pvps) Ill just stick with Barrage. As for PvE....actually I will probably stick with barrage as well. Unless I wanna do some crazy IA Chocking gas YEA!....um.....not really. Although I COULD bring serpents quickness for like...what a 3.35 recharge time? Wich is like Ia bow shot IA bow shot if I'm not mistaken.

It was fun while it lasted, but a 2 sec recharge with AoE arrows and NO prep removal was kinda 1337

Also Burning arrow was Always good in PvP. I noticed that 3 particular elites were popular with almost the same skill bar. Apply poison, couple interrupts and one of the following elites, Crippling shot, Burning arrow, or BHA. They were, and will always be popular. I prefer Crippling myself but with Burnings change, I might bring it more often now.

*edit* found the builds I was talking about. Same thing every time but the elite and I saw them being played a lot
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/...g_Arrow_Ranger
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/...d_Arrow_Ranger
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/Mo_Cripshot

Lol the IA variant is exactly the same too xD
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/..._Arrows_Ranger

Konig Des Todes · Oct 10, 2008, 05:25 PM // 17:25

IA is still good in comparison to BA.

IA:
Burning
Spreading
Stacks with preparations
Still somewhat spammable

BA:
Longer Burning
Damage
Stacks with preparations
Somewhat spammable.

The two are just balanced to each other. IA spreads and BA deals damage and longer Burning.

Flinte · Oct 10, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55

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Originally Posted by kazi_saki

Ultra degen? ? I still like IA + sharpen daggers + apply poison though.

cant get any higher than -10 degen

ALF71BE · Oct 10, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

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Originally Posted by ajc2123

I will probably not use IA for pvp anymore. Despite not removing a prep and shooting up to 3 arrows, If I need that kind of AoE power (Possibly on AB ONLY...rarely have I used IA in other pvps) Ill just stick with Barrage. As for PvE....actually I will probably stick with barrage as well. Unless I wanna do some crazy IA Chocking gas YEA!....um.....not really. Although I COULD bring serpents quickness for like...what a 3.35 recharge time? Wich is like Ia bow shot IA bow shot if I'm not mistaken.

It was fun while it lasted, but a 2 sec recharge with AoE arrows and NO prep removal was kinda 1337

Also Burning arrow was Always good in PvP. I noticed that 3 particular elites were popular with almost the same skill bar. Apply poison, couple interrupts and one of the following elites, Crippling shot, Burning arrow, or BHA. They were, and will always be popular. I prefer Crippling myself but with Burnings change, I might bring it more often now.

*edit* found the builds I was talking about. Same thing every time but the elite and I saw them being played a lot
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/...g_Arrow_Ranger
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/...d_Arrow_Ranger
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/Mo_Cripshot

Lol the IA variant is exactly the same too xD
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:R/..._Arrows_Ranger

Yeah, we know.

Add Melandru's Shot to the list.

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Will ppl be using it in PvE?

Degeneration conditions are meh in PvE. They're just used for cover condtions. BHA owns all.

wind fire and ice · Oct 10, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

Crip Shot,Burning Shot and Melandru's are the best now. IA lost its constant spamability,now only useful for AB.

jackinthe · Oct 10, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18

oh noes all the ia spammers in ab and fa will have to find a new build...
BA still better imo, specially if you're running with some friends in a spike

Tyla · Oct 10, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

If you're spiking there are better skills to use.

wind fire and ice · Oct 10, 2008, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by jackinthe

BA still better imo, specially if you're running with some friends in a spike

Allot better options for spiking..

jackinthe · Oct 10, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35

i'm talking like a guild team in ab, and we only use 1 BA. throw in maybe a BHA and a mel's, an orders necro for fun...

Amy Awien · Oct 10, 2008, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by ALF71BE

Add Melandru's Shot to the list.

And Magebane Shot.

Meteor's change sucks more, I always had fun in shutting down groups of Hydra's, just one of those thing you visit Perdition Rock for when feeling a bit down or bored.

You can always add Serpents Quickness to your bar, helps for some other skills as well and it was almost overdone with lower recharge.

ALF71BE · Oct 11, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08

^ Though Hydras in Perdition don't have Meteor.

Amy Awien · Oct 11, 2008, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Oh, ok, they use Meteor Shower then, I always mix them up. That's good, the fun can continue.

Age · Oct 11, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

It is ok for me iirc the cast time was removed pvx has the old version.Meteor can still be interrupted with d-shot.I like Melandru's shot over Crip shot.I will use it in pve still IA.

Fay Vert · Oct 11, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06

lol, they bufed IA to make it more usable, then nerf it so that the pre-buff version is more preferable. If anything, BA should have been buffed instead, but why buff when you can nerf is ANets philosophy.

Shadowspawn X · Oct 12, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33

IA is still a good skill but I like BA better. Rangers are pretty balanced out now, one nerf here or there is basically irrelevant. Rangers are so diverse and have too many great builds to dwell on one skill.

zelgadissan · Oct 12, 2008, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

lol, they bufed IA to make it more usable, then nerf it so that the pre-buff version is more preferable. If anything, BA should have been buffed instead, but why buff when you can nerf is ANets philosophy.

Burning Arrow was buffed.....o.0

On topic I've always preferred Burning or Cripshot and will definitely still be using Burning or Cripshot.